@MIHIR_KATTI said in #10:
> what are your thoughts?
Religious system for me, because God is the one and only one who is wise and all-knowing.
yeah, for religious people this question is a no brainer (i was about to say literally ;).
but for the rest of us, its always good to be curious, skeptical. power should be distributed and decentralized. so that would be a good start into a good society.
A person's religion rules his or her life. It is not meant to rule a society.
The Founding Fathers of America were mostly believers. But they recognized that faith is a personal matter and should be a choice, not an obligation imposed by the state.
Indeed, they weren't big fans of an imposing, powerful government, and built in checks and balances that, until pretty recently, seemed quite effective. They had faith in a free press. A faith that, until pretty recently, was dependably justified.
A representative, non-single party Government should rule. But sparingly. Mostly men and women should learn to rule themselves and their passions judiciously, and with effort, care and the fairness that they learn from their religion.
Nowadays, politicians promise special benefits in order, in some cases, to create politicial support. Indeed, some pandering politicians want to have all taxpayers indirectly (via government) pay off the debt of SOME taxpayers. They want plumbers and electricians and truck drivers who didn't seek a degree to pay off some of the debt generated by others for obtaining degrees that, in some cases, aren't even of much utility to the society itself.
But the plumber or the electrician or the truck driver often incurs significant debt in order to enter and remain in business. And I haven't seen any truck drivers protesting because they have to pay for their own trucks.
Unfortunately, we get "played" by push-media, and keep on electing too many panderers. As the national debt continues to get more and more mammoth.
@Noflaps I know a plumber with a degree in mathematics and another in physics. I also know an electrician with a degree in computer science. I've met a builder with a degree in psychology and a painter with an advanced music degree who left teaching. Knowing them all personally, they never expected others to foot the bill for them. Interesting isn't it? I think it comes down to personal accountability.
Systems, whether religious or secular, are meant to maintain control over a subservient populace. They have little to do with what might be called good governance, except insofar as some semblance of good governance is exigent to maintain public order. And that has never been to everyone's benefit.
Usually when someone claims that one system is best for everyone, it is simply propaganda.
Besides, a choice of systems ignores the benefits of no system: anarchy.
Theocracy every time
Isn't it great when someone tells you
what God wants
@Dukedog said in #16:
> Theocracy every time
>
> Isn't it great when someone tells you
> what God wants
Screw that!
I want Synarchial Kraterocracy, and if you don't agree, then you'll get beat up by the Illuminati
Illuminati exists, the government doesn’t want us to know.
@clousems said in #8:
> If designed with "ruling" in mind, they both suck.
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> Systems shouldn't be designed to rule society-- they should be designed to improve the lives of those they serve.
There's way too much at stake for the actual rulers in maintaining things as they are -- with you being ruled and with the rulers profiting handsomely off of their rule of you.
If you pay rent, pay off loans, pay bills, work for anyone for a wage, pay taxes, vote for anyone in the sacred Two-Party System, or -- for that matter -- participate in the money economy without being an investor, you are being ruled.
@WassimBerbar said in #9:
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> What system type do you think is best to improve society and its members?
Society might improve itself except for the fact that it is continuously being suckered into believing that it must be ruled by a system.
